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Cheap and Cheerful IPAS Practice

 
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Deadeye Dick



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Cheap and Cheerful IPAS Practice Reply with quote

Would there be objections on any grounds to using the zeroing range for IPAS practice without needing to get out all the tackle?

By standing outside the covered area behind the firing line others are protected by the structure of the shelter and one could practice against the 15, 20 & 25 yard plates. On the face of it, this would appear to be safe.

One does not wish to annoy other shooters and an S.O. would need to comment on safety.

If two or more would wish to practice then certainly at least one set of IPAS plates would need to be got out and set up but it may be overkill just for one person.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe pistols are not supposed to be used on the ranges, except the designated pistol one. I'm sure Davali will confirm this for you. Very Happy

Although you do see people using them before comps.

Also the rapid fire might be loud and slightly annoying if you are trying to zero (cos that's what it's for Wink ) on the zero range, rather than a long plinking session. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can see how the zero plates can be attractive for ipas practice, i thought of using them for rifle fast fire fun shoot.

however (always seems to be a 'however' doesnt there) the plates were made for zeroing, for two or more shooters per plate, i dont think i need to explain how there used, but in short it relies on fairly accurate placement of pellets, so one can tell whos mark belongs to who.

pistols would just splatter the whole plate, i think that might p---s off other shooters.

and as roger has pointed out, pistols are only to be used on the pistol range, this was discussed at a recent committee/safety meeting.

it is club rules that pistol shooters should wear eye protection, in case of ricochet, as we know, not many people bother, but if they suffer eye injury they can only blame themselves. pistol shooters can reasonably expect other pistol shooters are wearing eye protection.

there is no such safety rule for other ranges, and therefore pistol shooters cant expect other shooters to have eye protection, thats one reason why pistols can only be used on pistol ranges.

im sure Dave Mansfield would have no problem with you using the ipas plates on the pistol range.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I correct in assuming that one may zero a pistol (scoped, red dotted, open sights or whatever on the zeroing range)?

I ask because my experience is that this is commonplace. The plates are at distances deemed safe from ricochets from rifles with double the power so, in that respect, a pistol appears to present less risk (unless I'm missing something).

No problem with not using the zeroing plates for light IPAS practice. I understand and accept the points made.

As and when I get my S&W I'll get the IPAS plates out and put them on one of the pistol ranges. Outside competition should a red flag be used to signify that a shooter is on the range as is the case on the zeroing range just in case someone else turns up and starts shooting?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BANGALOOR wrote:

and as roger has pointed out, pistols are only to be used on the pistol range, this was discussed at a recent committee/safety meeting.


BANGALOOR wrote:
a/ is pistol shooting allowed on the 'plinking range' yes or no.

NO IT IS NOT, and rifle is not allowed on pistol range, except (i think) bb low power, i will check this exception with bob.


As I read it from the last post regarding the safety/committee meeting, you are not allowed to use pistols on the plinking range, I may be wrong though.



If you cannot now use them on the zero range too then can someone please explain to me how I'm suppose to zero my pistol on Pistol HFT day when either the course is being set or is already out on the pistol range?


Perhaps it'd be safer to leave it in the box under the bed?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take your point Colin, Maybe some one can let me know as well?..
Are we becoming a club which claps hands to signify a shot and then gueses where you would hit the target and gives a hypothetical score, very cheap on pellets, air etc..

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to suggest that on "Pistol" competition days the Zero range is closed to rifles and, Only Pistols can be used up until the start of the pistol competition then it can be opened to rifle shooters only, There is no need for rifle zero'ing for comps etc to conflict with this..

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Deadeye Dick"]Am I correct in assuming that one may zero a pistol (scoped, red dotted, open sights or whatever on the zeroing range)?

I ask because my experience is that this is commonplace. The plates are at distances deemed safe from ricochets from rifles with double the power so, in that respect, a pistol appears to present less risk (unless I'm missing something).

No problem with not using the zeroing plates for light IPAS practice. I understand and accept the points made.

As and when I get my S&W I'll get the IPAS plates out and put them on one of the pistol ranges. Outside competition should a red flag be used to signify that a shooter is on the range as is the case on the zeroing range just in case someone else turns up and starts shooting?[/quote]

yes

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outside competition a red flag should be used to signify that a shooter is on the range as is the case on the zeroing range just in case someone else turns up and starts shooting.

Please can one be placed with the IPAS Plates so it is part of that set of kit thus defaulting to fail-safe?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deadeye Dick wrote:
Outside competition a red flag should be used to signify that a shooter is on the range as is the case on the zeroing range just in case someone else turns up and starts shooting.

Please can one be placed with the IPAS Plates so it is part of that set of kit thus defaulting to fail-safe?


good idea, not sure who is going to do it though.

there are more red flags in the container, well one more at least.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Missed this One


After discussion with others -

Opting for using Sighting in Range for Pistols
Up to Start of Competition - Pistols Only
This Saturday - 4th July 09

As Safety issue of Pistol Shooters must wear Safety Glasses
And Pistols and Rifles do not mix on Range

Pending getting the lane cleared @ Side of Number 4 Pistol Range

Which should be enough room when cleared for sighting in -

Have discussed Competition Pistol - being on Number 0ne Leaving Pistol Range Clear -

But Accept - Range One is Boring for Pistols
Need the Bushes along 4 to make it interesting Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howabout using a bit of the woods for a pistol comp this saturday, as Colin and myself will be setting it out. Aware of flags etc.
Just to make it interesting. ( not that it isn`t usually interesting Rolling Eyes )


Andy

ps: could even put your new signs out Vic
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Deadeye Dick



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Howabout using a bit of the woods for a pistol comp this saturday, as Colin and myself will be setting it out. Aware of flags etc.
Just to make it interesting.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

freewind wrote:
Howabout using a bit of the woods for a pistol comp this saturday, as Colin and myself will be setting it out. Aware of flags etc.
Just to make it interesting. ( not that it isn`t usually interesting Rolling Eyes )


Andy

ps: could even put your new signs out Vic


now thats handy, Andy,

cheers mate, il get them out for you.

cheers
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