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New: Pinnacle Studio v11 - AVCHD Support Too!
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flyfisher



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rogs wrote:

It'll be ineresting to see how Pinnacle are going to employ the new MIDI options --- probably using sequenced standard MIDI sets, I fear Sad !

Well, it'll be a shame if they do because they won't really be doing midi justice - as I now realise.

Regarding your point about the difficulty of using one instrument (typically a keyboard I guess) to properly and fully 'play' another, are there any alternatives to the keyboard as a midi generator?

Presumably it would be impossible to build a 'dummy' brass instrument with a midi output. Probably easier to just play the real thing I guess (not that I could!).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyfisher wrote:

are there any alternatives to the keyboard as a midi generator?

Not so much generator as controller -- there are things like this which have been around for a while -- Yamaha used to do a few as well, but apparently it's now illegal to sell them in the EU! Shocked

Not sure how successful they are - certainly a bit specialised, and of course you can end up with the reverse problem - using a wind controller to make piano sounds, for example, might prove a bit tricky!

AndyB01 wrote:

one day my midi work will sound like that

Mine too --can I borrow your Avatar please Andy? Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anytime - Google image for flying pigs! Laughing

I did see a midi guitar once but it's not the same as the real thing - midi drum pads have been around for a while but it will come eventually. Look at how the Wii has transformed video games - apply the same principles to music technology and it starts to get interesting.

My drum synth (EZDrummer) has a 'humaniser' function (which varies the velocity of the beats) something you used to have to do manually on a beat by beat basis in a piano roll on screen. A right pain in the proverbial so coding decent drum tracks could take hours. Now I just use grooves and fills, drag and drop and use the keyboard to add a few accents here and there.

I recall my first ever drum machine - bought in 1982 for £60 and sounded like a demented woodpecker on speed - truly awful.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember reading about drum machines with a 'human' element (i.e. variability) built in, although I've never had the chance to play with one. And yes, weren't those early drum machines (and the ones in cheap 'toy' keyboards) so absolutely awful??!! Shocked

As for the Wii, I'm completely disconnected from the gaming world and have little idea about why everyone seems to rave about the 'Wii breakthrough'.

What with my evident midi shortcomings and no idea about Wii, you're all making feel like a right old fogey.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back on topic - Studio 11 hasn't crashed once in a day of editing! It's much faster and fluid than ever the previous versions were - and the version I have hasn't even been optimised either.

In addition to reviewing it for "Digital Video" and "Computer Buyer" magazines, I'll be producing several Flash-based online movies to show it in action on SimplyDV. I might even do a video podcast or two.

Perhaps Avid really did shake up the Pinnacle crowd, as is rumoured to have happened!

Colin

PS: And the new audio package is much better than SmartSound.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin wrote:
Back on topic. Colin

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Re-assuring to hear though Colin - I may have to eat my words. Two things interest me - one: what is the association with midi exactly and how this works and two: the actual hardware reqts (as oppose to the minimum ones which we all know are woefully inadequate) esp regarding CPU, RAM, sound and graphics cards.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately I don't know much about the workings of the application yet because all I've received is a pair of DVD-R and CD-R discs to install, accompanied by a photocopied "reviewers notes" guide. So, really, I don't know much more than is available on the Avid/Pinnacle website.

As for Midi, I never did get the hang of that whole thing even though I can see its uses. I'll have a poke around when I get a boxed retail copy later in the week (well, if Pinnacle UK is on schedule anyhow!) and it'll be the manual that will give me a better idea.

As for system, all I can say that I'm still running video apps on my Sony Vaio, 2.6Ghz P4+HT, 1GB RAM, NVidia FX5200 (Sony version) and it works fine - mind you, so does Premiere Pro 2! I have a built-in something-or-other soundcard, but I rely on a M-Audio Fast Track external USB 2.0 interface for most stuff as I hate the crappy internal sound card connections that come with PCs.

It's definitely much more nippy than v10 - I use JKL and Spacebar keys a lot when working quickly, and where v10 sometimes paused between functions this one gets on with it instantly. Scrubbing the timeline fast is also very responsive.

I'd imagine that it works very well with a sooped-up system based around Dual Core processing.

I'm planning on getting rid of two of my PCs and replacing with a new Core 2 Duo Intel Apple Mac and running Bootcamp or Parallels for dual Mac/Vista operation in order to save desk space and give me one set of physical / peripheral connections. I'm sure that Studio v11 will fly on such a system!

Colin
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