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Xembla
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Now keeping in mind the source, but McClaren -- the wally with the brolly (i love that!) -- has said that only about 38% of the players in the EPL are actually English, whereas in Serie A or La Liga it's closer to 65-70% of native players, and that's why those nations have more success in national competitions.
This isn't a question about what to do, quotas, etc. but the causes. In other words, why is that true?
Do Spain and Italy produce so many more top-quality players that they can afford to export them and still keep 65-70% for domestic use? Is it possible that some English players would rather play in Europe? (Although the whole of the England squad now play domestically, don't they?).
Is this a youth progress problem? What do they do differently in Spain and Italy with their youth? I'd find it hard to believe they're pumping millions into academies, when you consider the generally poorer state of the economies.
What gives?
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Dustin, there are many reasons but mainly those other nations don't like foreigners, racial abuse is widespread, I think many football associations in Europe have restrictions as to how many foreign nationals are permitted to play in each game. Uefa have been discussing imposing limits on our Premiership clubs, that is one of the reasons Manchester United have plenty of English and Arsenal are against the idea.
It is difficult to blame the premiership for England's decline, even with only 33% English playing, they would be the best the country has to offer, playing week in week out against more English of lesser talent wouldn't improve their game, McLaren messed up big-time especially with his goalkeeping choice for a crucial game, only someone who had lost the plot would play a rookie in such a game, that is why a national manager needs tactical awareness. |
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HalfMan/HalfBiscuit
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Dustin,
Interesting point and I'm all for a proposal of a 6 to 5 ratio of indigenous players to foriegn born which is what I think ManYoo and Arsen*l (a foriegn club in all but name) are opposed too. Interestingly Scotland have seen a marked improvement since they went to a quota system for home grown youth players.
One the other hand thinking back to the late 1970's and early 1980's when English clubs enjoyed something of a monopoly in the European Cup & Uefa Cup a fair number of teams like Leeds, Nottingham Forest, Spurs, Ipswich & Liverpool had a good proportion of non-English talent, i.e they were from other British Isles countries, in particular Scotland - something that has been taken out of today's figure.
As for other countries, you could look at their education system in part, Germany is particulalry strong in it's sport/schooling links as is Holland, I wouldn't consider a macro-economic issue to be a problem, Italy is a G8 economy however the big 'money' is in England right now and therefore carries the clout. Italy was in fashion a few years ago (late 1980's early 90's). Worth noting that Italy took strenuous steps to go to a total ban on foriegn imports after failure in the 1978 World Cup, they won it in Spain 1982.
Going back to education isn't it interesting how many foriegn players turn up in England conversant in the language and ready to adapt to the culture on and off the pitch? - something that a coach of a foriegn club wouldn't necessarily see as an immediate ability in an English player with notable exceptions, the penny dropped big time with Kevin Keegan when he was at Hamburg and he showed the application to go on and be European footballer of the year, Tony Woodcock is a well known commentator in Germany as is Michael Robinson (ex Liverpool) in Spain following on from good spells in those countries.
Should add as another factor a lot of European clubs, eg. Bayern Munchen and Barcelona, are in effect community sporting clubs owned by the locals (I think all are in the German Bundesliga bar Borussia Dortmund) which no doubt aids a culture of youth development. I don't think it's all bad, Middlesborough are a good example of bringing English players on, back in Cornwall people like the highly respected Tommy Matthews are doing sterling work at the grass roots.
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