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Vladimir Bukovksy, the 63-year old former Soviet dissident, fears
that the European Union is on its way to becoming another Soviet
Union. In a speech he delivered in Brussels last week Mr Bukovsky
called the EU a "monster" that must be destroyed, the sooner the
better, before it develops into a fullfledged totalitarian state.

Mr Bukovsky paid a visit to the European Parliament on Thursday at
the invitation of Fidesz, the Hungarian Civic Forum. Fidesz, a
member of the European Christian Democrat group, had invited the
former Soviet dissident over from England, where he lives, on the
occasion of this year's 50th anniversary of the 1956 Hungarian
Uprising. After his morning meeting with the Hungarians, Mr Bukovsky
gave an afternoon speech in a Polish restaurant in the Trier straat,
opposite the European Parliament, where he spoke at the invitation
of the United Kingdom Independence Party, of which he is a patron.

Paul Belien: You were a very famous Soviet dissident and now you are
drawing a parallel between the European Union and the Soviet Union.
Can you explain this?

Vladimir Bukovsky: I am referrring to structures, to certain
ideologies being instilled, to the plans, the direction, the
inevitable expansion, the obliteration of nations, which was the
purpose of the Soviet Union. Most people do not understand this.
They do not know it, but we do because we were raised in the Soviet
Union where we had to study the Soviet ideology in school and at
university. The ultimate purpose of the Soviet Union was to create a
new historic entity, the Soviet people, all around the globe. The
same is true in the EU today. They are trying to create a new
people. They call this people "Europeans", whatever that means.

According to Communist doctrine as well as to many forms of
Socialist thinking, the state, the national state, is supposed to
wither away. In Russia, however, the opposite happened. Instead of
withering away the Soviet state became a very powerful state, but
the nationalities were obliterated. But when the time of the Soviet
collapse came these suppressed feelings of national identity came
bouncing back and they nearly destroyed the country. It was so
frightening.

PB: Do you think the same thing can happen when the European Union
collapses?

VB: Absolutely, you can press a spring only that much, and the human
psyche is very resilient you know. You can press it, you can press
it, but don't forget it is still accumulating a power to rebound. It
is like a spring and it always goes to overshoot.

PB: But all these countries that joined the European Union did so
voluntarily.

VB: No, they did not. Look at Denmark which voted against the
Maastricht treaty twice. Look at Ireland [which voted against the
Nice treaty]. Look at many other countries, they are under enormous
pressure. It is almost blackmail. Switzerland was forced to vote
five times in a referendum. All five times they have rejected it,
but who knows what will happen the sixth time, the seventh time. It
is always the same thing. It is a trick for idiots. The people have
to vote in referendums until the people vote the way that is wanted.
Then they have to stop voting. Why stop? Let us continue voting. The
European Union is what Americans would call a shotgun marriage.

PB: But we have a European Parliament which is chosen by the people.

VB: The European Parliament is elected on the basis of proportional
representation, which is not true representation. And what does it
vote on? The percentage of fat in yoghurt, that kind of thing. It is
ridiculous. It is given the task of the Supreme Soviet. The average
MP can speak for six minutes per year in the Chamber. That is not a
real parliament.

In 1992 I had unprecedented access to Politburo and Central
Committee secret documents which have been classified, and still are
even now, for 30 years. These documents show very clearly that the
whole idea of turning the European common market into a federal
state was agreed between the left-wing parties of Europe and Moscow
as a joint project which Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev in 1988-89
called our "common European home."

The idea was very simple. It first came up in 1985-86, when the
Italian Communists visited Gorbachev, followed by the German
Social-Democrats. They all complained that the changes in the world,
particularly after [British Prime Minister Margaret] Thatcher
introduced privatisation and economic liberalisation, were
threatening to wipe out the achievement of generations of Socialists
and Social-Democrats threatening to reverse it completely.
Therefore the only way to withstand this onslaught of wild
capitalism was to try to introduce the same socialist goals in all
countries at once. Prior to that, the left-wing parties and the
Soviet Union had opposed European integration very much because they
perceived it as a means to block their socialist goals. From 1985
onwards they completely changed their view. The Soviets came to a
conclusion and to an agreement with the left-wing parties that if
they worked together they could hijack the whole European project
and turn it upside down. Instead of an open market they would turn
it into a federal state.

According to the [secret Soviet] documents, 1985-86 is the turning
point. I have published most of these documents. You might even find
them on the internet. But the conversations they had are really eye
opening. For the first time you understand that there is a
conspiracy quite understandable for them, as they were trying to
save their political hides. In the East the Soviets needed a change
of relations with Europe because they were entering a protracted and
very deep structural crisis; in the West the left-wing parties were
afraid of being wiped out and losing their influence and prestige.
So it was a conspiracy, quite openly made by them, agreed upon, and
worked out.

In January of 1989, for example, a delegation of the Trilateral
Commission came to see Gorbachev. It included [former Japanese Prime
Minister Yasuhiro] Nakasone, [former French President Valry]
Giscard d'Estaing, [American banker David] Rockefeller and [former
US Secretary of State Henry] Kissinger. They had a very nice
conversation where they tried to explain to Gorbachev that Soviet
Russia had to integrate into the financial institutions of the
world, such as Gatt, the IMF and the World Bank.

In the middle of it Giscard d'Estaing suddenly takes the floor and
says: "Mr President, I cannot tell you exactly when it will happen
probably within 15 years but Europe is going to be a federal state
and you have to prepare yourself for that. You have to work out with
us, and the European leaders, how you would react to that, how would
you allow the other Easteuropean countries to interact with it or
how to become a part of it, you have to be prepared."

This was January 1989, at a time when the [1992] Maastricht treaty
had not even been drafted. How the hell did Giscard d'Estaing know
what was going to happen in 15 years time? And surprise, surprise,
how did he become the author of the European constitution [in
2002-03]? A very good question. It does smell of conspiracy, doesn't
it?

Luckily for us the Soviet part of this conspiracy collapsed earlier
and it did not reach the point where Moscow could influence the
course of events. But the original idea was to have what they called
a convergency, whereby the Soviet Union would mellow somewhat and
become more social-democratic, while Western Europe would become
social-democratic and socialist. Then there will be convergency. The
structures have to fit each other. This is why the structures of the
European Union were initially built with the purpose of fitting into
the Soviet structure. This is why they are so similar in functioning
and in structure.

It is no accident that the European Parliament, for example, reminds
me of the Supreme Soviet. It looks like the Supreme Soviet because
it was designed like it. Similary, when you look at the European
Commission it looks like the Politburo. I mean it does so exactly,
except for the fact that the Commission now has 25 members and the
Politburo usually had 13 or 15 members. Apart from that they are
exactly the same, unaccountable to anyone, not directly elected by
anyone at all. When you look into all this bizarre activity of the
European Union with its 80,000 pages of regulations it looks like
Gosplan. We used to have an organisation which was planning
everything in the economy, to the last nut and bolt, five years in
advance. Exactly the same thing is happening in the EU. When you
look at the type of EU corruption, it is exactly the Soviet type of
corruption, going from top to bottom rather than going from bottom
to top.

If you go through all the structures and features of this emerging
European monster you will notice that it more and more resembles the
Soviet Union. Of course, it is a milder version of the Soviet Union.
Please, do not misunderstand me. I am not saying that it has a
Gulag. It has no KGB not yet but I am very carefully watching
such structures as Europol for example. That really worries me a lot
because this organisation will probably have powers bigger than
those of the KGB. They will have diplomatic immunity. Can you
imagine a KGB with diplomatic immunity? They will have to police us
on 32 kinds of crimes two of which are particularly worrying, one
is called racism, another is called xenophobia. No criminal court on
earth defines anything like this as a crime [this is not entirely
true, as Belgium already does so pb]. So it is a new crime, and we
have already been warned. Someone from the British government told
us that those who object to uncontrolled immigration from the Third
World will be regarded as racist and those who oppose further
European integration will be regarded as xenophobes. I think
Patricia Hewitt said this publicly.

Hence, we have now been warned. Meanwhile they are introducing more
and more ideology. The Soviet Union used to be a state run by
ideology. Today's ideology of the European Union is
social-democratic, statist, and a big part of it is also political
correctness. I watch very carefully how political correctness
spreads and becomes an oppressive ideology, not to mention the fact
that they forbid smoking almost everywhere now. Look at this
persecution of people like the Swedish pastor who was persecuted for
several months because he said that the Bible does not approve
homosexuality. France passed the same law of hate speech concerning
gays. Britain is passing hate speech laws concerning race relations
and now religious speech, and so on and so forth. What you observe,
taken into perspective, is a systematic introduction of ideology
which could later be enforced with oppressive measures. Apparently
that is the whole purpose of Europol. Otherwise why do we need it?
To me Europol looks very suspicious. I watch very carefully who is
persecuted for what and what is happening, because that is one field
in which I am an expert. I know how Gulags spring up.

It looks like we are living in a period of rapid, systematic and
very consistent dismantlement of democracy. Look at this Legislative
and Regulatory Reform Bill. It makes ministers into legislators who
can introduce new laws without bothering to tell Parliament or
anyone. My immediate reaction is why do we need it? Britain survived
two world wars, the war with Napoleon, the Spanish Armada, not to
mention the Cold War, when we were told at any moment we might have
a nuclear world war, without any need for introducing this kind
legislation, without the need for suspending our civil liberaties
and introducing emergency powers. Why do we need it right now? This
can make a dictatorship out of your country in no time.

Today's situation is really grim. Major political parties have been
completely taken in by the new EU project. None of them really
opposes it. They have become very corrupt. Who is going to defend
our freedoms? It looks like we are heading towards some kind of
collapse, some kind of crisis. The most likely outcome is that there
will be an economic collapse in Europe, which in due time is bound
to happen with this growth of expenses and taxes. The inability to
create a competitive environment, the overregulation of the economy,
the bureaucratisation, it is going to lead to economic collapse.
Particularly the introduction of the euro was a crazy idea. Currency
is not supposed to be political.

I have no doubt about it. There will be a collapse of the European
Union pretty much like the Soviet Union collapsed. But do not forget
that when these things collapse they leave such devastation that it
takes a generation to recover. Just think what will happen if it
comes to an economic crisis. The recrimination between nations will
be huge. It might come to blows. Look to the huge number of
immigrants from Third World countries now living in Europe. This was
promoted by the European Union. What will happen with them if there
is an economic collapse? We will probably have, like in the Soviet
Union at the end, so much ethnic strife that the mind boggles. In no
other country were there such ethnic tensions as in the Soviet
Union, except probably in Yugoslavia. So that is exactly what will
happen here, too. We have to be prepared for that. This huge edifice
of bureaucracy is going to collapse on our heads.

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